The Lifeboat Hour - 12/19/10

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[wheatfarmer]

" 2011 is the year we go over the cliff " says MCR, but he also said, " we are going over the cliff right now " toward the beginning of fall 2010 and announced it on collapsenet video. So how many cliffs are there Mike??

Mike, your mind is a little off the rocker! You feast on negative news and love
propagating it. You like to take credit saying you got this right and that right, but fact of the matter is, you are wrong 80% of the time. YOU PREDICTED STOCK MARKET WOULD BE IN THE 4000 RANGE by christmas and said in New Hampshire " scoff at your own damn risk" but
its not even close. This is just a few of your great predictions. You are an insane moron, a whack job!

[Keets]

See thats where your wrong wheatfarmer, the proof is in the peak oil graphs when aligned to population graphs. It's nearly impossible to gauge WHEN this is exactly going to happen because the people who hold and drill the oil dont give us all the variables. All we can do is estimate and speculate by the little bit of information were given. People far before the bank bailouts and automotive bailouts in America publicized information that it was going to happen after the first big oil spike after the 70's, and now that has finally happened and yet you are still in denial. Open your eyes.

[sal]

all this stuff sounds like the same BS they said back in the 80's they said the stock market is going to crash ; we are headed for a depression.

anyone that studies the stock market ,& history would know that in every decade or so some idiot pops their head out of the sand to tell us we are on the verge of collapse. this all sounds like revisionism revisited .
survivalist BS.
this radio show host would make a great end times book of revelation preacher , but instead we should ascribe to his mag or what ever he's pushing.
ever notice that every* the sky is falling* predictor of doom tends to either have a magazine to sell or a gold mine or some gold to sell us.
BUY GOLD BUY GOLD READ MY MAGAZINE ETC.
fear is a big motivator & money maker, & tends to bring about what is feared the most .it's self foe filling prophecy.

then he mentions china; as if he's smarter then the Chinese. I'm sure the Chinese are working on their own problems, & wont just sit & let the whole thing crash. there's alot of things going on behind the scenes which we dont ever hear about. this man is mostly reiterating celente & others.
it makes me wonder what the real agenda of such people are.
.I'm starting to think that all this doom & gloom is mostly intended to scare the american people into voting for another party ,or to vote in some leftist liberal ,or some so called progressive liberal party ; the kind of party that told us let's vote in the hope & change ;change we can believe in fiasco, so that's why I'm starting to think it's all political. just scare the masses; tell them it's all coming to an end ;then sucker them into voting for a certain party of their own making.
most of them doom & gloom folks are either communist or socialists types ,who would love to see the american markets collapse; just so they can move in, & tell us ;see we told you so, capitalism is a failure.
so once they get voted in they will bring upon a hybrid like style economy. you think the democrats love to tax folks ; just wait till the liberals & progressives take hold .
the guest must think we are dummies. she mentions Peter Schiff. hello peter owns a gold company his whole thing is buy gold hedge against a falling dollar & or inflation.
oh by the way I listen to everybody such as leftists economists,
liberal economists, progressive economists,right winger economists, & conservative economists. I've noticed the leftists libs & progressive are the ones who mostly telling us* the sky is falling*

what a bunch of dummies even if the prices of goods goes up or the dollar falls doesnt mean this is forever. all the currencies go up & down.
& even if the dollar losses it's value ;all goods & products would acclimate themselves to the weaker dollar. it's all relative say for example if the average american salary goes down by say for example 5000$ ,or above;all the sales goods foods etc would have to acclimate their prices to the average american wage earner ,or else they would go out of business. say for example a slice of pizza currently costs
$ 2.50 cents in the ny area,so if the average ny earner is making less money & cant buy the pizza at that current price ;that pizza slice would have to go down in price ,so the customer can afford it; you cant have a slice of pizza selling for 5 bucks per slice; if no body can afford to eat it that slice would have to go down.
again it's all relative . in the middle east one can live middle class on 10,000$ per year , but in american that's poverty .
so if we do go into decline we will have to lower wages, & lower the price of goods to acclimate to each other. read economic history folks.
in the end it will all work out in the end.
. how much was a slice of pizza during the 50's? hmm 20cents per slice the average wage in amercan was like 10,000$.
think about it.. it's not the end of the world as them 2 hosts are telling us. sure in the short term we will have problems , but the problems will work them selves out & will collaborate themselves we arent going into the stone age dark ages.

[Wheatfarmer]

To Keets:

Nobody disputes the relationship between oil output and population growth. In your own words, nobody knows WHEN this all going to happen. But Michael Ruppert apparently knows exactly when. He went on the ' Kaiser Report ' and predicted a so called " cliff event " no later than the summer of 2010. Now he is calling for another cliff event. YOU need to open your eyes. He's made several other predictions which haven't even come close. This is also the same man who in 2006 told everyone he was gonna a bid a permanent goodbye to the United States and sure enough, he was back within a year. Complete fruit cake!

[sal]

to Wheat farmer.

you are right on the money!! this whole vid is bs; anyone with a brain knows MIke is wrong based on his calculations. I believe in peak oil too but Mike is way off.

keets doesnt know what he's talking about ; he sounds like a true believer.

Dr Albert A Bartlett
professor emeritus
department of physics
at university of Colorado at boulder
The Most IMPORTANT Video You'll Ever See (part 1 of 8)
in part 3 /8 he talks about oil
youtube.com/watch?v=F-QA2rkpBSY

[GW]

I'd like to comment on wheatfarmer's response to keets, 31st December.

Would you say that the Europeans' $142 billion bank bailout for Greece, or $85 billion for Ireland, and similar plans for Portugal and Spain ($420 billion) would qualify as 'cliff events' or is that 'business as usual'?

In Europe, on mainstream newshows they are talking about the collapse of the Euro.

[GW]

Just another in response to sal and wheatfarmer.
I think your judgment of Mr Ruppert is a little harsh to say the least.

In terms of news sources, comment and analysis, providers fall into three categories:

a) the house isn't burning down, but they're telling us it is
b) the house is burning down, but they're telling us it isn't
c) the house is burning down, and they're shouting 'wake up! get out!'

It is often diffficult to tell which category news providers and official bodies fall into, but from the three programmes I've heard from Mr Ruppert, I'd say he is in category c).

We should be very wary of bodies, institutions and organizations that are in a) and b). They are acting in their own interests, which are usually against the interests of others and/or 'the greater good'.

What's more, if you smelled smoke in your home, you could either go and take a look, just in case, or think 'aw, it's probably nothing." There's a lot of smoke these days, and it might be nothing, but personally I don't think so.

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