The Lifeboat Hour - 09/12/10

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[informedveteran]

Welcome to PRN! Good show. Good to hear from you. I like your band too.

Dan - Norristown PA

[Burbs]

Hey Mike decent show but it sounded like you we're eating through the whole show...it became very annoying.

[Carin]

congratulations, you did it?

[S]

Great show, I'd like to recommend you ask Matt Savinar and Guy McPherson to be on the show sometime.
Thanks Mike! (and everyone else)

[pamela]

hey Mike, that really was a great show! I'm so glad I got to hear it, I think you are a good radio host.
I'd like to second the suggestion that you interview Matt Savinar.
He's a wonderful caring person that's had a profound effect on many people's lives and helped many to understand and prepare for Peak Oil.
keep up the good work Mike, I look forward to your next show!

pamela

[Claudia]

Great talk. Thank you for opening eyes.

[Visitor (apparently by mistake)]

Good grief. Am I the only thinking person here?

All these notions of "spiritual sustainability" is pure claptrap. There is no such thing a "spiritual sustainability". Human spirituality evolves in relationship to the environment and conditions of life.

The "survival" of spirituality is non-starter. As human history has show with thousands of examples, human spirituality evolves in relationship to environment, social structure and acceptance, and political force. Which is why it has changed so often (and always will).

The term "spirituality sustainability" is basically a stupid attempt to place spin upon something Ruppert is apparently clueless about, which is probably why he only mentions the topic, but did not expound on it at all.

Ruppert is full of himself, what he calls his "odyssey" that he so often reminds us of. Unfortunately, he is still lost, leading the "flock" (sheep) he has fostered right into the wilderness (weeping all the way).

Ruppert CONSTANTLY talks about himself (a true narcissist). This is what makes listening to this guy so difficult. And he doesn't actually say anything! Yada yada yada about himself, his movie, his book, his work, his band. Somebody should bother to count how often he does this in a single hour -- I'm not going to put myself through that experience again.

Good grief Ruppert, shut the fuck up and (critically) listen to yourself. You're always whining about money too while "trying to sound polite".

The reason I have never supported you is because you still don't get it (and neither does Baker but I'll leave that for later). 30 minutes into the 9/12 broadcast and you have yet to say ANYTHING worth listening to except incessant self-promotion.

I think your totally lost Mike (still), and you really have no idea at all what comes next -- for you, for civilization, for mankind. You stubbed your toe along the way and have been nursing the "hurt" ever since. I listened to the whole "hour" which was quite tortuous to endure. You said nothing worth listening to except toss out a few buzzwords, repeat your own narcissist self-promotion, steal a few well-publicized ideas from others and claim them as your own.

Ok, 42 minutes in... still listening, you've said nothing worth sharing.

Let me give you a few pointers:

a) stop talking about yourself except where applicable and meaningful, and limit this self-promotion, it's a thin-veneer for your real agenda.

b) put some better content into your broadcasts (or stop doing them if you can't). There is no meat on the bones Mike, what you put into this show wouldn't feed a chicken.

c) tell people exactly "HOW" to disconnect if that is what you believe (if you know how, which I suspect you really don't because I've yet to see you focus on this).

d) stop the shameless band promotion. I don't like the music (sorry), it's irrelevant to the topics you tried to bring up (but somehow, you didn't manage to get to them) and takes up too much time in the broadcast.

I suspect you do this because you really don't have the much to say.

e) you indeed don't know how. I can see that now, 53 minutes in... preaching "hope" but without knowledge (or experience apparently). Naivety isn't going to save anybody Mike, surprised that you with your (real) experience actually embraces this.

By the way -- someone (who will name nameless) told me about this broadcast, and said it was "kumbaya crap". I totally agree. Your content is useless and other then promote the "feel good" illusion you apparently believe in (without reason or justification), you've actually offered nothing with the endless rambling you shared.

Sorry Mike, but you're missing the mark here by a mile. You're not even on the racetrack it seems. I have to wonder "Why?" though. How can you, a "celebrated author and speaker" be so clueless and incapable of actually sharing anything of real content?

Or is it as I suspect -- our system rewards (and promotes to the forefront) those that will grandstand, even though they don't have the experience or the knowledge?

Do you know how to disconnect? I do. Do you know how to raise your own food? I do. Do you know how to prepare for the collapse? I do. Do you know how to build a community, organize a volunteer effort, plan for survival? I do. Build a house? Dig a well? Construct a chicken pen? Cut your own firewood? Repair a bicycle? I do.

There are those that "do" and those like you and many, many others that just talk about it. I think that they are secretly hoping somebody else will "do" these things for them. I happen to know that some of your guests are just like that by the way. What they are doing is what we have now -- supporting those who "can't" or "won't" or refuse to try.

But it's so easy to see through this rubbish.

Suggest you take a serious look at these comments (but I doubt if you will) and consider your "qualifications" for what you're doing (and stop the shameless self-promotion, nobody should be following you anywhere).

Let me put this another way that maybe will get through to you -- if you're not actually "doing it already" -- then why do you think anybody should listen to you at all?

There is no doubt that you yourself can fill a niche in the collapse movement -- but this isn't (obviously) it.

Put on some real people who have real skills and real experience on collapse preparations and who do not shamelessly self-promote. You could become an organizer if you like, promoting those who already "do" and share their valuable experience. Just don't make yourself the main topic of the show, I'm sure we've all heard quite enough already.

[Chris]

The Visitor that made the long winded wah wah,apparently set their expectations into the stratosphere for Mike's FIRST radio show.They apparently didn't hear the letters Mike read aloud in the course of his first show.I know he does go over what he is about and where he has been quite a lot,but I imagine that is for people who may be introducing themselves to Mike's work for the first time.

You have to realize that not everybody has been following Mike for his entire career.Your comment is a little too similar to the FBI's letter to MLK for comfort.

[David]

So much of what Mike says is bang on. Especially the need to let go of old paradigms. In America as we know it, the 'self-promotion' paradigm is an essential survival skill. You just don't see it, for example, in rural Asian villages (I've lived in them for some years). Now, on the occasions when I am exposed to it, it is quite a shock to the system. Mike clearly wants to be our ''saviour'. I am sure this notion is as well-intentioned as it is dangerous.

'Self promotion' is only a whisker away from pathological egotism, and if one's aim is to 'save the world' it is well-nigh impossible to control that most subtle and ugly beast - the human ego.

Some actually define the ego as a 'sense of seperation from other people and other living things' - and as such it is the root cause of all our problems - individually and collectively. Ego and the sense of 'self' are one and the same thing.

It is hardly surprising that self-promotion is such a strong paradigm in the nation which has led us into the present dangerous mess. I doubt if we'll find Our Saviour in the USA - but it is a nation where we can be sure there'll be no shortage of applicants for the position!

[pamela]

we have got to get to a point to where we don't need "saviors" or "leaders".
THAT is what has harmed so many people. Not so much that we have leaders or saviors, but that so many people follow other people. So many people turn over the responsibility for making the hard choices to others.
That weakness is what gets us into so much trouble I think.

[signalfire]

Actually, although I've criticized Mike's 'strong' ego before, I thought he did a good job with this. He sounded a lot calmer and happier than I've heard him in a long while. It can't be easy talking for an hour by yourself in front of a microphone and I thought it was a well done show.

The problem comes when we have to stop talking about lifeboats and actually just do the work necessary. I'm starting to notice more and more people are waking up and they are people I presume are still plugged into the MSM, so our predicament is becoming clear to all but the true sleepers.

[Kathryn]

I have only been following Mike for a few months, so I don't have a long history with him as some commenters may, and I hear something different in what he is saying. I don't hear ego tripping and self-promotion; I hear a declaration and a sort of disclaimer: This is where I've been, this is my point of reference, this is where I'm heading - take away what is helpful to you. It seems very unguarded and genuine to me, as well as deeply generous. He is sharing, forgodsake. I don't hear him forcing anything on anybody. Take what is interesting or rings true for you and be thankful. By the way, Thanks, Mike. Your show was absolutely beautiful and spoke to my heart..

[Claudia]

To "Visitor" and David,
You are FUNNY, this first show reminds of the importance of community ,sharing and balance in life.
What kind of person are you to judge someone else's free advice, point of view, thoughts or opinions ? Even if you had all the skills and experience that you talk about I don't think you would share anything with anybody. I can tell by the hatred in your writing. Didn't your parents teach you to respect and listen to others? Oops maybe you didn't have good parents, I'm sorry. A very common problem these days.
Mike takes time of his life to share his experience. He doesn't have to. Maybe because he is egotistical, right?, or maybe because he actually has something important to say ? Many people respect and value his experience. You are free to take it or not.
So, you are an expert on "spiritual sustainability".. so why don't you go ahead and "expound" on it and tell us, here, all about it.... maybe you can have some of the attention that Mike has earned.

[David]

My comment was not about Mike. It was about the culture he has lived in for sixty years. Self promotion, delusions of grandeur and 'in-your-face' behaviour are so 'normal' that we don't even see it any more. And even if we do see it (in ourselves or in others) there doesn't seem to be anything odd about it. That''s US culture

[Carin]

Mike is sharing his experience and what inspires him, thank you.

[Jimmyfro]

That guy ('visitor') that wrote an essay is a bit of an idiot really, to slag someone off who is introducing himself (as it's his first radio show) for introducing himself is ridiculous. As for saying Mike doesn't know what he's doing, did he miss the bit about Mike visiting 'the lifeboat builders', i take it he must of done, to add to this, how do you know Mike isn't doing it himself, do you know him?? I'm 99.9% sure you don't so important lifeskill for you mush, don't comment on people or what they do unless you know them, you sound like someone completely influenced by media, which in your country (USA) is just propaganda anyway as it's controlled by corporations, don't be part of the 'bewildered herd' that the people who run your country think you are. Also, if this 'visitor' knows so much, who are you? tell us who you are so we can listen. Or are YOU so egotistical and arrogant that you can make all those hate-filled comments without backing them up or telling us who you are are what you do??!! Another typical pussyole that thinks he's a bigman and criticises without saying anything about himself or what he does, but simply making empty statements, in particular the bits where he says 'do you know how to do this, i do. - how do you do it then bigman?'

However, unfortunately i do agree with him about one thing, i think it is a bit of a shame that Mike is promoting his band so much as i'm not interested in 'new white trash', although it is understandable as he's passionate about his/their music and needs to promote it somehow. Still a little bit dissapointing though. Apart from that, keep up the good work Mike, you are a legend!!! And if there's any lifeboat builders in the UK let me know!!! All I see on our streets are sheep and zombies unfortunately!

[ron]

forget about "visitor". "visitor"s comments distract, likely they were designed to. it's one thing to be critical, it's another thing entirely to write a book out of a simple critique. "visitor" suffers as much from an ego problem as mike does. (do you know how to spell 'visitor'? i do. do you know how to spell 'i do'? i do, etc etc)...

the focus here is ruppert's first radio show, which was basically an introductory show for him, his site and his views to a (mostly) new audience who may or may not be familiar with his work. as with anything else, it will evolve- one way or another- in time.

all that aside, his first show on PRN was good. sounded professional. he probably had a candy or something in his mouth to keep cottonmouth at bay. many people in radio, television and/or public speaking use the same 'technique'. learning to speak in a public setting while controlling the activities of the mouth with the candy will, again, get better with time.

keep workin on it, mike, you're doing fine.

[Rhisiart Gwilym]

Thanks for this Mike. Great to hear you seeming so relaxed and well again, after the life-threatening crises. I think Rags, and the music, are two important promoters of this healing. Stick with them!

As one who's followed your work since the early days of FTW, I *know* what a unique, and uniquely penetrating, mind and what an unwavering, truth-telling voice you have been, and continue to be.

Power to your arm, brother. And great respect!

PS: One trasher-troll got in here somehow. Maybe that needs some kind of moderation of comments, to stop such timewasters from -- well -- from wasting our time.